http://tools.devshed.com/c/a/Website...To-Go-In-2006/

If you can't click on it, cut and paste the url

"newsreader" <newsreaderid@gmail.com> wrote:

devshed sucks imo. One or two paragraphs per page, sit and wait while
it fetches ads. All that for a sloppy statement of the obvious.
Blecch.

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newsreader wrote:
Nothing new in it. Content has always been king.

But he talks a lot - reminds me of a snake oil salesman. A lot of
promises of future wealth but no facts.

The fact of the matter is - with Adsense alone you'll be lucky to break
even on your web site. And that's not including the site creation and
maintenance costs. Even if you do it yourself there's a cost - unless
you consider your time worth nothing.

Sure, you can make a lot of money on the internet. You can also make a
lot of money selling tupperware, software or even panhandling. But how
many do you know have done it?



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I designed a site around 8 years ago, it generated 70 odd thousand for
the client in 12 months, but the money went to the client. Same with
another site that won a multi-million dollar contract for the client.

So my attitude now is, the client can go jump off a cliff. The sites I
design now, and I've only just come back to it after a 5 year break,
are for myself.

So I'm taking more than just an educated guess that this site will work
for me.

newsreader wrote:
And it made all this money through adsense?

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No, not adsense. Business networking, effective traditional and web
based advertising.

newsreader wrote:
Ah, so they didn't make their money off their website then. They made
it with other products/services, and their website was just a part of
their marketing campaign.


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True. But without the website the money wouldn't have been had. In the
broad sense, commercial website = revenue, how the revenue is derived
is the nuts and bolts.

newsreader wrote:
No, commercial website as a part of an overall marketing plan, good
products and/or services at a reasonable price = revenue.

A website by itself does almost nothing.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

That would depend on the market, products and services can sell at some
very unreasonable prices but that wasn't the point I was making. From
the perspective of a developer the commercial website has only one
function, to generate revenue, either directly or indirectly. How that
site generates the revenue is just the nuts and bolts.

The site I'm developing will generate revenue indirectly through third
party advertising, I'm targeting google adsense, primarily but not
only. And it makes good (ad)sense to target google first because facing
facts no company on this planet will advertise on a site that has no
traffic, except google.