Does anyone have a link to some reputable statistics on market dominance by
browser?

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"BenignVanilla" <bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in message
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Look at your web logs. Mine tell me that more than 95% of my visitors are
using IE.

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"Jay" <jerry280@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was hoping for a more of an industry outlook.

BV.

"BenignVanilla" <bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in
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Industry outlooks are kind of neat for general information, but really,
it's what's in your logs that count. If you build a site that's all about
how to get the most out of a Bourne shell, then you'll probably find the
bulk of your traffic to be Lynx.

If you build a site all about web mastering issues, you'll find hits all
over the map (mine would be Opera, for example)

If you build a site that is of general interest to the public, you'll
probably find a very high percentage of IE, simply because it is
installed by default with MS OS's (which says nothing about it's quality,
simply that it's there by default so people don't have to make a choice
if they don't want to)

If Real-estate is all about "Location! Location! Location!" Then
webmastering is all about "Targetting! Targetting! Targetting!"


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"BenignVanilla" <bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in message
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| Does anyone have a link to some reputable statistics on market dominance by
| browser?

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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"Marc Bissonnette" <dragnet@internalysis.com> wrote in message
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I agree fully, but this is not a question about a current site. I am working
on a project that has the potential for a new web based application. We are
trying to coax the customer into going with a more IE focused solution so we
can make use of some third party controls. The customer wants to know what
the market penetration is for Netscrape, so she can make a decision about
how many potential customers would not be able to access the system.

BV.,

"BenignVanilla" <bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in message
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http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm

BenignVanilla bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com wrote:
and so you can get another contract out of them when another browser gets
serious market penetration, as Opera looks likely to do?

I suppose there are now a lot of people around who don't remember Netscape
being overtaken by IE...browser market share is not static...and when a
change comes it comes fast...it took around 9 months for IE to go from a
rarity to complete market dominance

all it takes is a major ISP or two, or a major computer distributor to
switch to another browser as standard and you've got a serious
problem...or more accurately your client has

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"to the man who only has a hammer, everything looks
like a job for somebody with a decent tool kit"

"BenignVanilla" <bvREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in
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Well, there are two schools of thought here (that I know of, anyway)

1) When building a web-based application that is specific to a client,
dictate the browser use so that you can more accurately predict the
user's environment (assume a whole other thread spins off here about
who's got what features turned 'on', plugins, etc)
This has the definite advantage of allowing you to program for a known
environment and feature set. There is also the related thought that if
the users of the app really want to use it, then opening one web browser
over the other is not that big a deal (the other option being to buy and
install an entirely custom, non-web based app which increases the cost
exponentially)

2) Design a web-based application using only standards that are properly
implemented across all five major browsers. Instead of relying on client-
side plugins and features, make more (exclusive) use of server-side
technology, which you will then know works regardless of the client
application querying them. This also has a massive benefit that your
appeal to users is much, much broader. (Personally, I prefer this route -
going server-side where I can control all of the variables)

Are you able to describe at all some of the third party controls you feel
are necessary ? It may well be that some of us in this NG can suggest
some alternatives that will not tie you into one specific browser.


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Quoth the raven named BenignVanilla:

Oh please. Just what we need.

What do you think is going to happen when the general public finds out
that the next version of IE is going to cost... an operating system?

What is the proposed price of Longhorn? US $200... $300 ? Heh, time
to download Mozilla or Opera or whatever, for free. Buh-bye IE.

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