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Site not viewable in China
Posted by Jannie B on March 27th, 2006

I have done a web site for a client who has clients worldwide, but
apparently his colleagues in China are unable to look at the site because it
has been barred.

I don't know if is barred as part of a general policy of some sort, or
whether there is something about the site which is causing it to be barred.
Anyone else know anything about this?

Site url is www.xenexassociates.com

Thanks

Jan



Posted by Roy Schestowitz on March 27th, 2006

__/ [ Jannie B ] on Monday 27 March 2006 10:36 \__

I can't see anything wrong with the (content of the) site. The only fishy
part is:

<meta name="keywords" content="Pest, pest control, Xenex, Rob Fryatt, Xenex
Associates, BPCA, pest management, control de plagas, rodent control, bird
control, insect control, termite control. CEPA, rats, mice, ants,
cockroaches, pidgeons " />

I can provide a password-protected proxy if you like. You can give the people
who are blocked a password and they will be able to visit the site via the
proxy.

Best wishes,

Roy

Posted by Leigh Silvester on March 27th, 2006

Maybe they are basing the block on your spelling?
"pidgeons"?

Posted by Jannie B on March 27th, 2006

Pidgeon English! I'll fix that one..

J

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Posted by Jannie B on March 27th, 2006

Why do you think the keywords are fishy?

Thanks for the offer of a I don't understand how a password-protected proxy,
but I don't understand how this would help? Sorry to be so dim.

Jan

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Posted by Roy Schestowitz on March 27th, 2006

__/ [ Jannie B ] on Monday 27 March 2006 12:49 \__

Frankly, I have grown tired of unjustifiable censorship, which even affects
our WordPress Codex. Apparently, the Chinese government does not want its
people to contribute to software (in this case, blogging software).

The proxy involves allowing the visitor to surf the net via a 'middleman'
server, which removes the effect of the block. However, it would only help
on a temporary, short-term basis. If I leave it open for long enough, people
can use my server to browse 'bad neighbourhoods' and lead me to trouble.
That's why I tend the change the password every now and then.

The other possibility is of course the creation of a mirraor on a domain that
has not yet been banned in China.

Posted by Jannie B on March 27th, 2006

Thanks. Makes more sense now - sorry for garbled words of last message -
hit "Send" too soon

I think I will see if we can work out what it is they are objecting to and
see if we can either remove it from the main site or create a sanitised
version under a different domain.

Jan


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Posted by Roy Schestowitz on March 27th, 2006

__/ [ Jannie B ] on Monday 27 March 2006 13:34 \__

See if any sites on this shared server (same IP address?) waves a red flag:

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/netblock...0,81.21.75.127

Hope it helps,

Roy

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Posted by Jannie B on March 27th, 2006

Hi Roy,

Red flag would probably be OK

I hadn't come across the Netcraft toolbar before - what a brilliant tool!

One question - what exactly does the list of sites on the link you gave me
represent? Presumably these are all sharing the same hosting servers (and
therefore sharing an IP address?), but this is not all sites hosted here,
so is it a list of those deemed to be risky? Or those indexed by Netcraft in
some way? Or am I missing something obvious here?

I guess it's possible that if any site on a shared server is blacklisted,
then the whole IP is deemed to be a bad neighbourhood. Which is another
nail in the coffin of shared hosting.

Jan


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Posted by Roy Schestowitz on March 27th, 2006

__/ [ Jannie B ] on Monday 27 March 2006 14:55 \__


The pun was not intended. *smile*



I have used it since it was first recommended to me. It is brilliant. It
gives very gross insight into site traffic, we well security/trust (or
conversely risk) aspects, which is helpful to Windows users in particular. I
could go on, but it takes us off topic.



Some of the sites might be associated with or managed in other countries. It
is not uncommon for people to have sites hosted elsewhere. Mine, for
instance, is hosted by an Irish company. The list I was citing should
indicate which Web sites are managed by your host or reside on the very same
physical server. Some site exclusion rules (over in China) could be based on
IP addresses rather than domain names. Otherwise, you see, I could access a
page in my site using e.g.: 84.18.207.65/index.htm . I am merely guessing
here, but the only way to have a definite answer is to ask the Chinese ISP's
or the maintainers of the great Chinese (fire)wall.



Yes. When choosing a host, you will always be advised to stay away from pr0n,
gambling, pills and the like, hypothetically speaking. Linking to such
sites, receiving links from such sites or even possessing similar addresses
is cause for trouble. Search engines are believed to take this into account
as well. It's more of a guesstimate/rumour at this stage.

Best wishes,

Roy

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