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I could use some help.. cheers...
Posted by Carlos Arruda - Sales On-Line on September 3rd, 2003

Hello.
I need to learn how to work around forms in fontpage and get them to work by
using either a simple data base or just using e-mail to receive the forms
info.
I know nothing about html ot javascript but i am just giving the first
steeps into html as it is a must if i want to go into ASP.
I would need someone who has a bit of time that could help me out here by
exchanching some e-mails.
I now nothing as well of frontpage extentions or how to install them.
I am hosting my own webpage.
You can see this for at www.carlos-arruda.com/cava1/nho/mailing_list.htm and
the error is due to the frontpage extentions been missing.
Anny people willing to help me out there?
I would be very much apreciated.
Annything at all that helps me with forms using frontpage or not is welcome.
Sorry my english as i am still learning, just been in England for the past
10 months.
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Best Regards
Carlos Arruda
sales@carlos-arruda.com


Posted by Philip Herlihy on September 3rd, 2003

The usual arrangement is that you develop your website on your local PC and
then upload it to a server. For most of us, that will be a server provided
by an ISP, although you can use another PC or even the same PC (although I
think that would be very confusing for a beginner). Whoever manages the
server has to install the FrontPage Extensions. If you are using an ISP
then you should choose one which already offers them. Not all ISPs provide
the Extensions, and very, very few free ones, so you'll need to pay for
hosting. www.ukhosts.com are efficient and reasonably priced, and
www.oneandone.co.uk have suitable packages with no minimum contract term
(although their support folk don't seem very clued up). There is a version
of the Extensions which runs on Linux servers, but they won't be running ASP
as it is a Windows technology.

ASP also runs on servers (Windows ones). Both the FrontPage Extensions and
ASP servers can connect to Access databases. Other server-side languages
include the popular PHP, which is often used with the MySQL database.

JavaScript normally runs on the client, although there is a version (Java
Sever Pages) which runs on servers. I've never used the latter, so I hope
I'm not muddling that with the Java language, which is quite different from
JavaScript (oddly enough). JavaScript is fairly easy to learn, and requires
no server!

If you simply want to see if emails are getting out, try sending them to
me@privacy.net, which provides a useful autoresponder. Send one and see
what comes back.

You haven't explained why you want to do all this - are you a student? I'd
suggest you learn HTML thoroughly first, then a bit of CSS (Cascading Style
Sheets) and then a bit of JavaScript before moving on to server-side
technologies. The FrontPage Extensions are easy to use, but they hide a lot
of what is going on from you (great!) which means it's harder to understand
clearly what is happening at both ends of the browser-server connection.
You can get clear simple tutorials (supposedly not 100% accurate but I've
found them useful) at www.w3wchools.org. See also
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/

Good luck. (and your English is great for someone who's been here for only
10 months)

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Posted by Jim Ley on September 5th, 2003

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:55:57 +0000 (UTC), "Philip Herlihy"
<foof8500@REMOVEherlihy.eu.com> wrote:

This is gibberish, javascript and java server pages have as much in
common as cars and carpets.... (which for our non English native
speaker is none at all other than how it happens to be spelt.)

Jim.

Posted by Philip Herlihy on September 5th, 2003

Two quotes:

(1) From my own posting.
"JavaScript normally runs on the client, although there is a version (Java
Sever Pages) which runs on servers. I've never used the latter, so I hope
I'm not muddling that with the Java language, which is quite different from
JavaScript (oddly enough)."

(2) From "JavaScript - the Definitive Guide", 4th Edition, O'Reilly, 2002:
"Syntactically, the core JavaScript language resembles C, C++ and Java ....
The similarity ends with this syntactic resemblance, however."

Jim's quite right - Java Server Pages are nothing to do with JavaScript (as
I found when I looked it up *after* posting - the wrong order, of course).
Like most of us who post to newsgroups, I welcome corrections, even when so
bluntly put.

Do have a nice day. :-)

PS: My car has nice carpets - does that count?
PPS: I love your email address!

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Posted by Richard Watson on September 5th, 2003

"Philip Herlihy" <foof8500@REMOVEherlihy.eu.com> writes:

So should I ask you to (a) trim posts and (b) interleave your comments
in a nice way, or a blunt one? ;-)

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High Quality, Value for money colocation

Posted by Santiago Zawojski on September 7th, 2003

"Philip Herlihy" <foof8500@REMOVEherlihy.eu.com> wrote in
news:bjcdji$r1q$1@hercules.btinternet.com:

You may find that next time you post "I could use some help. cheers..."
that there are fewer people reading your posts, and thus fewer people to
help you.

Curious that you should ask for advice, but ignore it when given. And that
you should post in a way which will irritate the people that you are asking
advice from.

Posted by Philip Herlihy on September 7th, 2003

[snip]


Posted by Santiago Zawojski on September 7th, 2003

"Carlos Arruda" <newsgroups@carlos-arruda.com> wrote in
news:bjfbtl$bta$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk:

No suprise there.

No apologies needed.

That's ok, anytime.

Posted by Richard Watson on September 7th, 2003

"Philip Herlihy" <foof8500@REMOVEherlihy.eu.com> writes:

Is that really true? Or is that you haven't spent the time configuring
your newsreader properly?

Can you see any sense in which cooperation on a common posting style
is a good thing? Do you notice that the vast majority of people in
this group all post the same way?

Does it help that the charter for this newsgroup refers to this:
http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html

Pity.

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Richard Watson
http://www.opencolo.com/
High Quality, Value for money colocation

Posted by Carlos Arruda on September 7th, 2003

Hello Santiago Zawojski.
I do apologise the fact that i am not as smart as you apear to be and
congratulations for been of such great help.
Thank you mister perfect.
Regards
Carlos Arruda


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