This is a request from a frustrated father....

My 11 year old daughter is in the process of designing her own website, and
wants me to now buy her a domain name, and web hosting, rather than the
"Angelfire"thing she uses now (apologies, but this all means nothing to me).
She is very talented at this, designing her own graphics, using HTML code,
etc, and I want desperately to encourage her in every way. So in short
where do I start?

What type of hosting will she require for this type of content (she is not
yet using Java or Flash content, if that makes a difference)?

How much should I expect to pay?

How does she go about uploading to her host site (FTP?)?

Any good domain name/hosting recommendations?

Basically, I would appreciate ANY help that any of you knowledgeable people
out there can offer.

Thank you very much in advance.

Ian Rowley

In article <bfk7gt$fvckl$1@id-29756.news.uni-berlin.de>, one of infinite monkeys
at the keyboard of "Naughty boy" <dontevenbother@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Start by finding out whether your ISP includes webspace within the price
you already pay for your internet access.

Very sensible. An overwhelming majority of Java and Flash sites
just use it "because they can". It tells you they have nothing
of interest to say.

I'd guess your daughter knows her needs better than any of us do.

--
Nick Kew

In urgent need of paying work - see http://www.webthing.com/~nick/cv.html

In article <bfk7gt$fvckl$1@ID-29756.news.uni-berlin.de>, Naughty boy
<dontevenbother@yahoo.co.uk> writes

Very basic at this stage - all hosters offer different levels to upgrade
to in future if needed.

£30pa or less including domain name, email addresses and hosting.

If you already have space with your ISP you could buy domain name,
emails and webmasking for about 15pa instead.

There are many - I use Terrapin FTP:
http://www.tpin.com/europe/index.htm

Keep a close eye on how much support calls will cost you. I use Claranet
hosting at £30pa - partly because they have good and cheap support.

Ian,

I always offer to set these things up and help people get going for no
fee - you just pay 3rd party costs (as indicated above).

01903 248463 for a chat.

[Same offer applies to anyone else listening in who wants to take their
first steps.]

My wife is a social worker involved in child protection, so I can give a
steer there, too, if you need it.


Regards,

--
Alan ............

Hello Ian. Our Personal Account should be suitable for your daughters
needs. 50mb space, 1 gig bandwidth per month and a free .co.uk domain
name. Based on Redhat Linux. There is also "File Upload" with-in your
control panel, so you could could upload files from there. (along with
FTP) This account costs £35.25 (inc vat) If you do want a dedicated
FTP programme, take a look at our forums here:
http://www.forums.designrweb.co.uk/i...a e645eb8109b
You can also see the feedback from our clients there.

Thanks
Design R Web Solutions

http://www.designrweb.co.uk
http://forums.designrweb.co.uk

"Ian.H [dS]" <ian@WINDOZEdigiserv.net> wrote in
news:4qcrhvkv0rmlsd41gd16un9flfqdr70bv8@4ax.com:
If that is 123-reg dot co dot uk, they are part of HostEurope, who are
black hat:

<http://www.hosteurope.com/>

<http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&scoring=d>

A shorter version:
<http://snurl.com/1v5m>

A quick look shows most of these are spam reports and not recommendations.


(Ignoring my fsckwitted .com instead of .net when I'm talking about nfbg)

<http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&threadm=bfjos2%24hq6%244%40puck.litech.org&rnum=3 &prev=/groups%3Fq%
3Dhosteurope%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%
26selm%3Dbfjos2%2524hq6%25244%2540puck.litech.org% 26rnum%3D3>

A shorter version:
<http://snurl.com/1v5l>


At the moment I don't think I'd give them my money. If I'm wrong I will
gladly retract everything I've said.

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Whilst lounging around on Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:15:14 -0500, Santiago
Zawojski <auto352683wombat@hushmailkangaroo.com.invalid> amazingly
managed to produce the following with their Etch-A-Sketch:


[ Long links snipped from post ]




Some interesting reading Santiago.. thanks for those =)

I've never used them before, just heard from people that had.. but
after reading these, there's no way I'd consider them for my own use,
nor shall I ever bring up their name as a possible recommendation.

Thanks again =)



Regards,

Ian

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--
Ian.H [Design & Development]
digiServ Network - Web solutions
www.digiserv.net | irc.digiserv.net | forum.digiserv.net
Programming, Web design, development & hosting.

I have the feeling that the originator, (Naughty boy), of this post is
*bluffing us* and is not asking on behalf of his daughter at all.

Suggest you all look at the *Spanking* threads by "Naughty boy" at the URL
below, before being too helpful. His "reply" address is invalid too ...
Something fishy ??

Click on http://tinyurl.com/hsh0

In message <2gbkfb.a11.ln@jarl.webthing.com>, Nick Kew
<nick@fenris.webthing.com> writes
I'm more upset by those which do have something interesting, or useful,
to say, and which I want to know, but who use them despite that, because
their PHBs have been sold the idea, by cowboys and the clueless.
--
Andy Mabbett
USA imprisons children without trial, at Guantanamo Bay:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2970279.stm>
<http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR510582003?open&of=ENG-USA>

In message <bfk7gt$fvckl$1@ID-29756.news.uni-berlin.de>, Naughty boy
<dontevenbother@yahoo.co.uk> writes
Lucky girl!

Perhaps you might look at Gradwell's products:

<http://www.gradwell.net>

Without dampening her enthusiasm, you might also encourage her to read
up on making her website accessible to all, and to write it in valid
HTML - at such a young age, better to earn to do things right, and
carry that knowledge for the rest of her life, than to have to unlearn
mistakes, later.

--
Andy Mabbett
USA imprisons children without trial, at Guantanamo Bay:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2970279.stm>
<http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR510582003?open&of=ENG-USA>

On 23/7/03 10:15 am, in article
Xns93C17279E7A37auto352683WOMBAT@216.166.71.238, "Santiago Zawojski"
<auto352683wombat@hushmailkangaroo.com.invalid> wrote:

Whoooaahhh! What in Batman's name is black hat. I've read some of the
posts and it appears to be either to do with spam or porn sites or both.

I have about 130 domains that I've registered through 123-reg. It's
interesting, I phoned their 50p a minute line the other day as I get lots of
spam sent to sales@domain where the domain is one that I've registered on
behalf of a client or something and it's just sat doing nothing so the
catchall is set to my e-mail address. I asked them if they were selling
info about the names I'd registered but they said no. Its interesting
though that it comes to .co.uks, .coms, and all others. The common one is
from Flashcraft (I think) selling logo design to new companies.

I'd be interested in more info on this as I use 123-reg exclusively because
of their price and the fact that I can leave the nameservers at hosteurope,
just changing a records. That way, if a server goes down, I just change the
a record to another server and everything is sweet until I can fix the
duffer.

Andy