- Front Page Help Files
- Posted by Andy Jacobs on March 9th, 2006
In article <7tqu029s5onhiik15ee5tk39kp87tmsbv9@4ax.com>,
Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote:
Wake up and smell the coffee, Andy. That's education through and
through. You don't learn to drive, you learn to pass a driving test,
then you learn to drive.
Nobody's saying it's right, just that it's something we have to live
with.
A
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Intelligent Websites For Intelligent Business People
- Posted by Geoff Berrow on March 9th, 2006
Message-ID: <7tqu029s5onhiik15ee5tk39kp87tmsbv9@4ax.com> from Andy
Dingley contained the following:
I've taught in schools and I now teach in a college. There is no course
that I know of that stipulates the use of any type of software, let
alone Front Page <spit>.
However, plenty of courses state that they expect students to use
'software tools' (exam board buzz words - dontcha love 'em?). Add to
that the fact that many ICT teachers are simply not capable of teaching
HTML, much less HTML/CSS. And of those that do, many will teach
deprecated mark up.
So they have to use an authoring package and since Front Page is on the
system and is no extra cost, that's what they use.
At our college we have access to any Microsoft product. The blanket
site licence is ridiculously cheap.
For the record, my foundation students who are creating a web based
resource are hand coding using Notepad2. But they won't get any
recognition or extra marks for that.
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- Posted by Geoff Berrow on March 9th, 2006
Message-ID: <uhsu02l89rkdqoj7vei7r2mgfn8bnlu15t@4ax.com> from Geoff
Berrow contained the following:
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- Posted by Andy Dingley on March 9th, 2006
Geoff Berrow wrote:
better, allowing any tools and teaching XHTML. They didn't teach it
particularly well, in that they saw it as "HTML 5" and ignored the
context or the SGML/XML issues, but at least they were teaching modern
stuff badly, not old stuff badly.
I think that's the root of the problem. One of the few lessons M$
appear to have learned from Unix is that if you give the products away
to education you can achieve market dominance a few years later.
- Posted by Andy Dingley on March 9th, 2006
Andy Jacobs wrote:
People who are learning Frontplague because "raw HTML is Too Scary"
don't need <meta>, period.
- Posted by :::Jerry:::: on March 9th, 2006
"Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
news:1141921900.136305.139230@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
People who use Google groups to post through are to stupid for their
opinions to be worth anything because they haven't got the brains to
find a proper nntp host....
You really sound like a, "One size fits all", pillock sometimes! :~(
- Posted by Gazza on March 9th, 2006
Andy Dingley mumbled the following on 08/03/2006 23:44:
"OCR does not recommend particular types of software for any unit."
However, it also mentions several times that: "Candidates will require
software that enables them to complete all of the assessment objectives
in accordance with the unit specification and assessment guidance." and
that "OCR will not make allowances for software that does not permit
candidates to complete the objectives as specified."
In short, as the tests are written (in terms of wording) for the most
common software base, like it or not, Office, then it seems silly to
only try and teach in a way that doesn't go with the "teach to the exam"
concept.
I'm assuming you don't work in education/teaching Andy, as "teaching to
the exam" is exactly what happens, at least until the exams are passed.
It's all about reaching Government figures, either the number of A*-C at
GCSE or reaching Key Performance Target's/KPTs for the Learning & Skills
Council as it applies in prisons and FE. That's the nature of the beast.
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- Posted by Richard Cole on March 9th, 2006
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:56:39 -0000, ":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.INVALID>
wrote:
As someone who has no news group access at work (completely blocked on both
Firewalls that I have access to), I, for one, need to use Google groups to
post to news groups from work, which is often where I encounter problems
that I know I get immediate help for from the appropriate news group.
Don't paint everyone with the same brush.
Richard
- Posted by :::Jerry:::: on March 9th, 2006
"Richard Cole" <ispcrco@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:ch3112933g02nmpmdrd43m0t90rd18efci@4ax.com...
Sorry, I was attempting to be sarcastic, seems like I failed. :~(
The point I was attempting to make was, just as there are people who
need to use Google groups to access and post to Usenet there are
people who are required to (try and) work with Front Page. Just as FP
is not really a web authoring (more like a DTP) tool neither is
Google groups a NNTP server. IYSWIM?
- Posted by Geoff Berrow on March 9th, 2006
Message-ID: <zj0Qf.75465$m13.72709@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net> from Gazza
contained the following:
What he said.
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