Is Netscape still poor with DHTML? (In comparision to IE) The stuff I'm
reading only refers to Netscape 4 and reckons it doesnt meet the W3C
requirements, the material's a bit old.
I dont know any DHTML yet so I cant test it myself right now.
Just after any quick experienced opinions so I know how to take what I'm
'learning'.
Thanks in advance.
Del

Del wrote:

Given that DHTML is a buzzword that generally means "CSS + JS + DOM + HTML",
no. Recent versions of Netscape based on the Gecko rendering engine have
better support then IE for all those technologies (with the possible, but
unlikely, exception of JS which I know little about).

Of course, there is a lot of non-standard (read IE specific) code out there,
so it might _look_ like Gecko based browsers have poor support if you
aren't working from good documentation.

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"Del" <del_homewrecker@ntlworld.com> writes:

It depends what you mean by (a) Netscape and (b) DHTML.

If (a) means that old Communicator thing then it's not much use for
anything in the real world these days. If you mean the current
browsers you can download at netscape.com then you need to get with
the program and use firefox which uses the same rendering engine but
is a much better application. Basically if something works in firefox
it should work in many other browsers including up to date Netscape
releases.

As far as (b) goes if you mean DHTML to mean a mixture of client-side
scripting and css then it's probably a harder question to answer,
since IE arguably has the best javascript support and the worst CSS
support.

As a thing in itself DHTML isn't really something to be learned
although it was a buzzword about 5 years ago when we didn't know the
right way to get mouseover effects. You might be well advised to
perfect your CSS skills and then learn javscript if its a technology
that interests you.

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"Richard Watson" <tinnedmeat@doilywood.org.uk> wrote in message
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The rather old & poo NetG material in my CIW course with Computeach was
reffering to Netscape communicator 4, and IE4 being 'the current
competitors', thats how old the material is and I am not impressed at all.
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The main Netscape functions they were putting down was it's use of DOM and
Explorer not supporting <LAYER>. I will be going into basic CGI scripting
with Perl, Javascript etc next month
It is not realy a huge issue as I will be going for a 4-day in house
tutorial before my mid-stage exam where I will be doing as much
interegation, I just needed a hint of how much Netscape has changed (I have
7.1) so I know how many buckets of salt to take with what I'm getting
confused over.
Cheers guys

"Del" <del_homewrecker@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I don't expect you are, I would be asking what the worth of the 'course' is
and should I be complaining and asking for either a discount due to 'old
stock' or a refund - and spending the money on some other course or even
good up to date text books etc.

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:58:17 GMT, "Del" <del_homewrecker@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

No, it's near universal where javascript and DHTML courses are
concerned, there's no new material. These courses aren't equiping you
for a job. Learn any of that stuff, and you'll have to unlearn it
before you can work, IE4/NN4 DHTML models are no more.

If the course is that old, the IE4 code has also changed, and should
not be considered, get them to justify the utility of the course,
currently that course will almost guarantee you are not ready to get a
job.

Jim.

"Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com> wrote in message
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Well put guys, mind if I quote you on that? You dont know the half of it.
I'm the beginner and I've been ripping shreds out off them with screendumps
of their mistakes. I've run these mistakes past a friend who's been
programing since DOS and he just laughs.
Del

Del wrote:
Netscape 4.xx was the end of the line as far as that codebase went. The
current crop of Netscape (6+) / Mozilla browsers are based upon an
entirely different rendering engine called Gecko, which fully supports
the W3C HTML 4.0 and Document Object Model specifications.

I think the majority of forward looking web developers largerly regard
pre - V.6 versions of Netscape as a dead browser. Coding around its many
DOM deficiencies and poor CSS support make it virtually impossible to
support this browser without breaking your code.

Using the @import method for your stylesheet, for instance, will
guarantee that Netscape ignores the stylesheet, thus allowing you to put
in style rules which otherwise would *crash* Netscape 4.xx entirely.

In conclusion, V 4.xx browsers are not a good platform upon which to
develop modern HTML / DHTML code.


--
Matt Bradley
"I always like to know everything about my new friends,
and nothing about my old ones" - Oscar Wilde (The Picture of Dorian Gray)

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:06:31 GMT, "Eric Malcolm"
<eric.malcolm@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Of course not, the continual low standard of javascript development is
the main thing which has made javascript development such a joke on
the web.

Jim.

"Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com> wrote in message
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Just incase I confused anyone, that 'Eric Malcolm'- that is me, Del. Its the
mail account I use with computeach because it's my real name. 8{
ps I looked at the details of the netg material, the copyright date is 1998.
No, it's not a book, I downloaded it from computeach this year.
Del