By dint of a dreadful ISP (I'll spare you the details except to say that all
routes, including Nominet, have been tried), I've had to change from
v-liz.co.uk to .com. (I haven't paid the old ISP for almost a year since
they wouldn't reply to emails, snails or phone calls, but they still have my
..co.uk site up)

I can't change anything on the co.uk site (which is still 'up' - in parts).
In fact, it was trying to change the home page and site index pages which
alerted me to the problem in the first place: when I tried to send 'up' the
altered pages, they disappeared totally from my site, and after three months
they still won't go up - neither will new pages - so redirects aren't possible.

So I put .com up and after over ten weeks, Google finally found it. It's
currently only indexing the new section and the home page and site index
which aren't on the .co.uk site. (Or if the other pages are on Google,
they're below page 10 on searches). I presume this is because of identical
content.

I know these things aren't accurate, but Webalyser says my .co.uk site is
currently getting about 350 visitors a day, so I don't want just to haul off
my .co.uk website altogether.

Apart from emailing sites linked to me to ask them to change their links,
what else should I do before hauling off the old site completely? (I don't
really care about keeping the old name: it was getting spammed out of reason
anyway.)

Tx and slainte

Liz
--
Virtual Liz now at http://www.v-liz.com
Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Seychelles; Galapagos
"I speak of Africa and golden joys"

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:55:15 GMT, Liz <liz@v-liz.co.uk> wrote:

without the ability to change the .co.uk site, I can't see anything
you can do, I'd possibly say just kill it now, and hope the visitors
can find the .com site, the sooner it disappears the better.

Jim.

Liz wrote:

There is some FAQ's on 123-reg's site that cover this issue, where they
refer to the isp as 'joker.com' or something like that.

Send a registed letter to Nominet and the ISP - I find companies seem to
respond to them a more carefully than emails.

Jim Ley wrote:
(sorry can't see the rest if this thread)

Rather than dropping the .co.uk, why not set up an http 301 (redirect
permanent) to forward visitors to the new site - this ahouls also be
correctly spidered by S.E.'s and gets around the issue of duplicated
content.


--
Matt Bradley
"I always like to know everything about my new friends,
and nothing about my old ones" - Oscar Wilde (The Picture of Dorian Gray)

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:05:43 +0000 (UTC), Matt Bradley
<my_name_at@equaliser.net> wrote:

Ah, I obviously snipped too much, the relevant previous part was about
how all ability to change the original site was now impossible so
couldn't set up appropriate re-directs.

Jim.

Liz wrote:

http://www.nic.uk/TagHolders/TagChangeFaq/

but it implies Nominet are changing tag holders more easily, even if
there are outstanding fees you owe to the ISP. So perhaps it will be
easier now than it was in the past, and perhaps another approache to
nominet will work.

In message <418eb8c6@212.67.96.135>
David Kirkby <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:


'blank') disappear when Javascript is disabled?
Well, actually I'm only imagining they're links.
When the page is downloading, I can see the usual rectangular outlines as
though an image will appear, with the alt-text 'blank', but when the page
finishes loading, there isn't anything there and nothing happens when I
'mine-sweep' down that column!

do it myself and £15 if I do it through my ISP, but although their home page
says they will deal with the transfer, when push came to shove, they just
said I could do it myself through Nominet. Given that I have my own domain,
and the one I'm writing for my husband, that would be £160, plus another £10
each to host them at my new ISP I don't really want that outlay (totally
non-commercial in my case and 'awareness raising' in his).

To be honest, I was pretty naive. I had imagined all I'd have to do was wait
until my new domain got googled right next to (or at least on the same page
as) my old one on selected relevant searches, then I'd just delete the old
one.
Best laid plans. :-(

Ts for all suggestions

Slainte

Liz

--
Virtual Liz now at http://www.v-liz.com
Kenya; Tanzania; Namibia; India; Seychelles; Galapagos
"I speak of Africa and golden joys"

Liz <liz@v-liz.co.uk> writes:

You should be able to tell nominet to retag this domain to anyone you
choose. Then you will just have to pay the new ISP at their rates.

And while you're at it put in a complaint to nominet about the old
ISP.

--
Richard Watson
http://www.opencolo.com/
High Quality, Value for money colocation

Liz wrote:
Funny you say that, but I was sufficiently impressed with the look of
the Nominet web site (with Java enabled I would add), that I took a look
at their code to see how the menus were done!! It appears they are from

http://www.milonic.co.uk/menu

whose web page I took a look at. You can get the menus for free (plus
some small admin charge) for non-commercial sites and for 25 pounds for
commercial sites.

Following your comments, I just revisited the Milonic and Nominet sites
again. The menus at Milonic, whilst not nice without javascript, are in
fact usable, whereas those are Nominet are not.

I don't know what percentage of people are using javascript enabled
browsers. I assume you must be in a minority in not using it, but how
small a minority I do not know. If the browsers for 1 in 2000 visitors
did not work on my site, I think I'd ignore the problem, but if it was 1
in 100 I would not.

David Kirkby <nospam@nowhere.com> writes:
Usual estimates are 10-20% of users don't have javascript enabled,
with all the usual caveats about how unreliable web stats are.

--
Chris