Web is very different than paper and is perhaps the primary reason you
should not use Publisher for web design except for maybe very basic pages.

Frontpage is very good and can be easy..or hard..depends on how much time
you want to spend learning it. Yes there is a learning curve. You have to
know the basics of HTML and a little CSS.

Frontpage and Dreamweaver are about the best out there as far as WYSIWYG
(sorta), imo FP is a tad easier to learn than DW, and DW is quite expensive.

You may want to consider getting a webdesigner to get you up and going with
a basic web and then you take it over.

Oh, yeah..you also have to learn how to use a good image editor like
Photoshop, PSP, Photoshop Elements, etc.

.....nothing is easy.


"Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6C9DC74E-8CB4-4282-8208-F47707704927@microsoft.com...
|I don't know how to do a table. I really don't know about how to do a lot
of
| stuff as it deals with html. I like designing pages that look nice for
| paper. This web stuff is different. Would frontpage help me with this
| stuff? As I'm learning publisher is not made to do web pages but will if
you
| make it. I'm lookin for a program that will do a better job but still be
| easy to use. I don't have the time to learn HTML before I get my web site
| going. I can learn as I go along, no problem, but I need to start out
with
| something that's easy. Any suggestions?
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > To me it looks like your entire page is a form but, I'm sorry to say
I've
| > never used Publisher for forms.
| >
| > Generally, you'd not have your navigation and all that other junk within
| > your form tags...but then again Pub is a mystery maker.
| >
| > Try making a test page with a new form in a table and see if that
works -
| > keep it simple one or two fields above your Submit button.
| >
| >
| >
| > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:0CCE25E6-D1A3-48B1-B704-F3EA9E93D9C6@microsoft.com...
| > | Well I apreciate you help but I'm still haveing trouble. I got rid of
one
| > | problem only to have another. when I pull up my webite:
| > | robsheets.com/page6.html it says at the top "[frontpage save results
| > | component]" not sure why it says that? Also, when I click the submit
| > button
| > | now it comes back with, "Cannot run the FrontPage Server Extensions on
| > this
| > | page: "http://robsheets.com/page6.html"". I can't figure out what's
wrong
| > | with it. I deleted my whole website off the server and reinstalled
useing
| > | http this time. still the same problem. And I did reinstall the fp
stuff
| > too.
| > |
| > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > |
| > | > There is an article about three down on this page about forms:
| > | > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/default.aspx
| > | >
| > | > And follow this link for articles about publishing your site
correctly:
| > | > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/ar...gory/1921.aspx
| > | >
| > | > DavidF
| > | >
| > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:9E3CA960-711A-41D4-851B-6BD7B834495E@microsoft.com...
| > | > > OK, so I need to call my hosting co and tell them to install front
| > page
| > | > > extensions? Right? Does it seam to you that I'm uploading it
right
| > as
| > | > well?
| > | > >
| > | > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > > > Your web server must have FrontPage extensions installed and
| > | > > > working...your's doesn't.
| > | > > >
| > | > > >
| > | > > > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > > > news:2B8DB5CE-787B-42AA-9E54-BAF9F2B9D080@microsoft.com...
| > | > > > | My form submit button is not working. I have pub 2000. I
have
| > spent
| > | > at
| > | > > > | least 2 hrs with my dialup 28.8 connection trying to find an
| > answer
| > | > but
| > | > > > all
| > | > > > | the links seam to be bad for the answer I need. My web site
is
| > | > > > robsheets.com
| > | > > > | look under write us. The form button does not work. I used
ftp
| > to
| > | > upload
| > | > > > | (not sure what that means) and I understand I need to upload
it
| > with
| > | > HTTP
| > | > > > | (not sure what that is eather) I really do not know much about
| > this
| > | > but
| > | > > > would
| > | > > > | like to.
| > | > > > | Also, to click on a link to bring up a picture in my web site
is
| > there
| > | > an
| > | > > > | option that will allow the webpage to stay open behind the new
| > linked
| > | > page
| > | > > > | with out having to alter the html in another program?
| > | > > > | And what about the title bar I would like it to be different
than
| > my
| > | > web
| > | > > > | page title. Is there a way to do that?
| > | > > > | Please help. thanks, Rob
| > | > > >
| > | > > >
| > | > > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

I'm not against learning. I'm figuring I'll have to learn some anyway If I
want to be my own webmaster. I have no idea what css is, but wouldn't mind
knowing. I have a pretty good start on my website. www.robsheets.com , It's
just I want to go so much futher with it. Lots of thumbnails, guestbook,
etc. I am going to have to get a different program. SOme say FP is not much
better tham publisher with the html generator. I don't know what to do. I
do have a pretty good photo editor no problem there. Do you know if FP has a
thumbnail and guestbook button?

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

Well, I have had a measure of success with my submit button!!! Instead of
having it send it to my email, I have it going into some folder on my web
space. I'll have to figure out how to get it, but just wanted to let you
know.

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

FP will send it to a hidden folder within your web, Pub may do something
similar. IF it does you'd Import the csv file out of that folder.

Eha...there's a lot of FP bashers out there. I've been using FP since before
MS bought it from Vermeer...and it's come a long way since then. WYSIWYG is
never perfect, be it FP or DW or whatever, thats why you need to know the
basics. Dig in and have fun learning !


"Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E0EBB9C6-CC6D-48D6-8BC4-2C7514134D97@microsoft.com...
| Well, I have had a measure of success with my submit button!!! Instead of
| having it send it to my email, I have it going into some folder on my web
| space. I'll have to figure out how to get it, but just wanted to let you
| know.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > Web is very different than paper and is perhaps the primary reason you
| > should not use Publisher for web design except for maybe very basic
pages.
| >
| > Frontpage is very good and can be easy..or hard..depends on how much
time
| > you want to spend learning it. Yes there is a learning curve. You have
to
| > know the basics of HTML and a little CSS.
| >
| > Frontpage and Dreamweaver are about the best out there as far as WYSIWYG
| > (sorta), imo FP is a tad easier to learn than DW, and DW is quite
expensive.
| >
| > You may want to consider getting a webdesigner to get you up and going
with
| > a basic web and then you take it over.
| >
| > Oh, yeah..you also have to learn how to use a good image editor like
| > Photoshop, PSP, Photoshop Elements, etc.
| >
| > .....nothing is easy.
| >
| >
| > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:6C9DC74E-8CB4-4282-8208-F47707704927@microsoft.com...
| > |I don't know how to do a table. I really don't know about how to do a
lot
| > of
| > | stuff as it deals with html. I like designing pages that look nice
for
| > | paper. This web stuff is different. Would frontpage help me with
this
| > | stuff? As I'm learning publisher is not made to do web pages but will
if
| > you
| > | make it. I'm lookin for a program that will do a better job but still
be
| > | easy to use. I don't have the time to learn HTML before I get my web
site
| > | going. I can learn as I go along, no problem, but I need to start out
| > with
| > | something that's easy. Any suggestions?
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > To me it looks like your entire page is a form but, I'm sorry to say
| > I've
| > | > never used Publisher for forms.
| > | >
| > | > Generally, you'd not have your navigation and all that other junk
within
| > | > your form tags...but then again Pub is a mystery maker.
| > | >
| > | > Try making a test page with a new form in a table and see if that
| > works -
| > | > keep it simple one or two fields above your Submit button.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:0CCE25E6-D1A3-48B1-B704-F3EA9E93D9C6@microsoft.com...
| > | > | Well I apreciate you help but I'm still haveing trouble. I got
rid of
| > one
| > | > | problem only to have another. when I pull up my webite:
| > | > | robsheets.com/page6.html it says at the top "[frontpage save
results
| > | > | component]" not sure why it says that? Also, when I click the
submit
| > | > button
| > | > | now it comes back with, "Cannot run the FrontPage Server
Extensions on
| > | > this
| > | > | page: "http://robsheets.com/page6.html"". I can't figure out
what's
| > wrong
| > | > | with it. I deleted my whole website off the server and
reinstalled
| > useing
| > | > | http this time. still the same problem. And I did reinstall the
fp
| > stuff
| > | > too.
| > | > |
| > | > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > There is an article about three down on this page about forms:
| > | > | > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/default.aspx
| > | > | >
| > | > | > And follow this link for articles about publishing your site
| > correctly:
| > | > | > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/ar...gory/1921.aspx
| > | > | >
| > | > | > DavidF
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:9E3CA960-711A-41D4-851B-6BD7B834495E@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > > OK, so I need to call my hosting co and tell them to install
front
| > | > page
| > | > | > > extensions? Right? Does it seam to you that I'm uploading it
| > right
| > | > as
| > | > | > well?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > Your web server must have FrontPage extensions installed and
| > | > | > > > working...your's doesn't.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > > > news:2B8DB5CE-787B-42AA-9E54-BAF9F2B9D080@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > > > | My form submit button is not working. I have pub 2000. I
| > have
| > | > spent
| > | > | > at
| > | > | > > > | least 2 hrs with my dialup 28.8 connection trying to find
an
| > | > answer
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > > > all
| > | > | > > > | the links seam to be bad for the answer I need. My web
site
| > is
| > | > | > > > robsheets.com
| > | > | > > > | look under write us. The form button does not work. I
used
| > ftp
| > | > to
| > | > | > upload
| > | > | > > > | (not sure what that means) and I understand I need to
upload
| > it
| > | > with
| > | > | > HTTP
| > | > | > > > | (not sure what that is eather) I really do not know much
about
| > | > this
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > > > would
| > | > | > > > | like to.
| > | > | > > > | Also, to click on a link to bring up a picture in my web
site
| > is
| > | > there
| > | > | > an
| > | > | > > > | option that will allow the webpage to stay open behind the
new
| > | > linked
| > | > | > page
| > | > | > > > | with out having to alter the html in another program?
| > | > | > > > | And what about the title bar I would like it to be
different
| > than
| > | > my
| > | > | > web
| > | > | > > > | page title. Is there a way to do that?
| > | > | > > > | Please help. thanks, Rob
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

Thanks for you help crash. I think I'm going to go ahead and put out the $
on FP. Do you know if you can do a guest book in FP easily or thumbnails?

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

Hi Rob,
Have you managed to get your 'Submit' button working yet? When I try yours
on your site it seems to work, it doesn't come up with any errors.
Regards,
Laura


"Rob" wrote:

Yes, you can do a simple guestbook. Yes, has autothumbnailer. Forms too, as
long as your host has FP extensions installed and working.

Beware...don't use anything on the Drawing Toolbar though or you'll end up
with IE only pages and some code that looks like Publisher code. And, no you
cannot convert your Publisher web to FP, you will have to re-do it.




"Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:22F1B01B-3FE9-4579-A2D6-29BD4A7B0FE5@microsoft.com...
| Thanks for you help crash. I think I'm going to go ahead and put out the
$
| on FP. Do you know if you can do a guest book in FP easily or thumbnails?
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > FP will send it to a hidden folder within your web, Pub may do something
| > similar. IF it does you'd Import the csv file out of that folder.
| >
| > Eha...there's a lot of FP bashers out there. I've been using FP since
before
| > MS bought it from Vermeer...and it's come a long way since then. WYSIWYG
is
| > never perfect, be it FP or DW or whatever, thats why you need to know
the
| > basics. Dig in and have fun learning !
| >
| >
| > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:E0EBB9C6-CC6D-48D6-8BC4-2C7514134D97@microsoft.com...
| > | Well, I have had a measure of success with my submit button!!!
Instead of
| > | having it send it to my email, I have it going into some folder on my
web
| > | space. I'll have to figure out how to get it, but just wanted to let
you
| > | know.
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Web is very different than paper and is perhaps the primary reason
you
| > | > should not use Publisher for web design except for maybe very basic
| > pages.
| > | >
| > | > Frontpage is very good and can be easy..or hard..depends on how much
| > time
| > | > you want to spend learning it. Yes there is a learning curve. You
have
| > to
| > | > know the basics of HTML and a little CSS.
| > | >
| > | > Frontpage and Dreamweaver are about the best out there as far as
WYSIWYG
| > | > (sorta), imo FP is a tad easier to learn than DW, and DW is quite
| > expensive.
| > | >
| > | > You may want to consider getting a webdesigner to get you up and
going
| > with
| > | > a basic web and then you take it over.
| > | >
| > | > Oh, yeah..you also have to learn how to use a good image editor like
| > | > Photoshop, PSP, Photoshop Elements, etc.
| > | >
| > | > .....nothing is easy.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:6C9DC74E-8CB4-4282-8208-F47707704927@microsoft.com...
| > | > |I don't know how to do a table. I really don't know about how to
do a
| > lot
| > | > of
| > | > | stuff as it deals with html. I like designing pages that look
nice
| > for
| > | > | paper. This web stuff is different. Would frontpage help me with
| > this
| > | > | stuff? As I'm learning publisher is not made to do web pages but
will
| > if
| > | > you
| > | > | make it. I'm lookin for a program that will do a better job but
still
| > be
| > | > | easy to use. I don't have the time to learn HTML before I get my
web
| > site
| > | > | going. I can learn as I go along, no problem, but I need to start
out
| > | > with
| > | > | something that's easy. Any suggestions?
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > To me it looks like your entire page is a form but, I'm sorry to
say
| > | > I've
| > | > | > never used Publisher for forms.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Generally, you'd not have your navigation and all that other
junk
| > within
| > | > | > your form tags...but then again Pub is a mystery maker.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Try making a test page with a new form in a table and see if
that
| > | > works -
| > | > | > keep it simple one or two fields above your Submit button.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:0CCE25E6-D1A3-48B1-B704-F3EA9E93D9C6@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | Well I apreciate you help but I'm still haveing trouble. I
got
| > rid of
| > | > one
| > | > | > | problem only to have another. when I pull up my webite:
| > | > | > | robsheets.com/page6.html it says at the top "[frontpage save
| > results
| > | > | > | component]" not sure why it says that? Also, when I click
the
| > submit
| > | > | > button
| > | > | > | now it comes back with, "Cannot run the FrontPage Server
| > Extensions on
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > | page: "http://robsheets.com/page6.html"". I can't figure out
| > what's
| > | > wrong
| > | > | > | with it. I deleted my whole website off the server and
| > reinstalled
| > | > useing
| > | > | > | http this time. still the same problem. And I did reinstall
the
| > fp
| > | > stuff
| > | > | > too.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "DavidF" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > There is an article about three down on this page about
forms:
| > | > | > | > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/default.aspx
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > And follow this link for articles about publishing your site
| > | > correctly:
| > | > | > | >
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/ar...gory/1921.aspx
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > DavidF
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:9E3CA960-711A-41D4-851B-6BD7B834495E@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > > OK, so I need to call my hosting co and tell them to
install
| > front
| > | > | > page
| > | > | > | > > extensions? Right? Does it seam to you that I'm
uploading it
| > | > right
| > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > well?
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > > > Your web server must have FrontPage extensions installed
and
| > | > | > | > > > working...your's doesn't.
| > | > | > | > > >
| > | > | > | > > >
| > | > | > | > > > "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > > >
news:2B8DB5CE-787B-42AA-9E54-BAF9F2B9D080@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > > > | My form submit button is not working. I have pub
2000. I
| > | > have
| > | > | > spent
| > | > | > | > at
| > | > | > | > > > | least 2 hrs with my dialup 28.8 connection trying to
find
| > an
| > | > | > answer
| > | > | > | > but
| > | > | > | > > > all
| > | > | > | > > > | the links seam to be bad for the answer I need. My
web
| > site
| > | > is
| > | > | > | > > > robsheets.com
| > | > | > | > > > | look under write us. The form button does not work.
I
| > used
| > | > ftp
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > upload
| > | > | > | > > > | (not sure what that means) and I understand I need to
| > upload
| > | > it
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > HTTP
| > | > | > | > > > | (not sure what that is eather) I really do not know
much
| > about
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > | > but
| > | > | > | > > > would
| > | > | > | > > > | like to.
| > | > | > | > > > | Also, to click on a link to bring up a picture in my
web
| > site
| > | > is
| > | > | > there
| > | > | > | > an
| > | > | > | > > > | option that will allow the webpage to stay open behind
the
| > new
| > | > | > linked
| > | > | > | > page
| > | > | > | > > > | with out having to alter the html in another program?
| > | > | > | > > > | And what about the title bar I would like it to be
| > different
| > | > than
| > | > | > my
| > | > | > | > web
| > | > | > | > > > | page title. Is there a way to do that?
| > | > | > | > > > | Please help. thanks, Rob
| > | > | > | > > >
| > | > | > | > > >
| > | > | > | > > >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >